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Post  iluvowls on Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:49 pm

gamerdude94 wrote:I think that genes can have some effect on aging but it is most dependent on your lifestyle. For example your genes could give you perfectly healthy organs but if you chain smoke and eat mcdonalds everyday for ten years you can still have a body that is like a 90 year olds inside. For the second question, I do not think we should find a cure for aging. Aging is a natural cycle of earth. If nobody died then we would all eventually die from starvation and food scarcity plus cramped conditions. It would also destroy the economy, look how hard it is to get a job now, it wont be any easier if everyones great-great-grandparents are working too.



You make a great point. People simply just don't need to live longer than they do now. It would ultimately mean we would have a horrible overpopulation problem. It's bad enough as it is. I also think messing with nature screws up the whole cycle.

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Post  Communistkid on Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:50 pm

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If you do not try to live longer than your body is able to function correctly, and you die of natural causes, then no it is not condisered suicide because you did not bring about your own death. You simply "went the way of the world". I do not consider trying to prolong your "stay" on the Earth as bad, but if you do that and things happen that continue to make it necessary for you to continue attempting to lengthen your life, then its probably your time to go, you have fulfilled your purpose in life. Also, I believe that God gave us such trials and tribulations as cancer to teach us patience, love, kindness, and compassion. these trials were also created and given so that we may be humble and become closer to God through prayer and faith and when we do pray and have faith, we will recieve blessings and the trials will end when we die and we will finally be at peace. it is just like riding a bike. you dont get to enjoy the sensation of riding a bike until you try, fall down and hurt yourself a few times, but still try and eventually, usually with help from a parent, you finally are able to do it.

You never die "of natural causes" because dying is something going wrong in your body. Plenty of living things live far longer than humans, you have to remember that this isn't doing away with death. If a man who can live forever gets stabbed, he still dies and the age limit would definitely still be there. How do you know your purpose in life isn't accomplished until 300 years from now? When we die, we die. So excuse me if i brush off the fairy tales and false morals.
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Post  calientelabios234 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:47 am

aMAIZEing94 wrote:After reading Liz Ward's article, I think aging is determined somewhat by your genes and moreso by your lifestyle. People inherit genes that will determine how their bodies age, but the way you live and how you treat your body affects it more in the long run. An example from the article was perfect in saying that if your family does not have a history of heart disease or high blood pressure, you can still get those diseases depending on how you treat your body.
I think the author's mind is in the right place as a scientist trying to come up with a new solution to life. Societal problems that can be caused by the elimination of aging are the elimination or differences of stereotypes we, as humans, have come up with for those in different ages. For example, young people will be dating REALLY old people and that may be just fine... for everyone. However, I think we should leave the aging process alone. I think it was made like that for a reason and if it is supposed to change then it will on its own. Cool Laughing

I agree with you I think there are certianly some things in the world that we do not completly understand. I think aging is one of them. We might not be able to understand why it happens but apparently its there for a reason. I also think if we mess with it, it might cause some MAJOR problems down the road.
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Post  calientelabios234 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:53 am

timmy buck buck wrote:I believe that aging has to do with a persons lifestyle. This is based off my observations in life. Many people who smoke tend to age faster than those who don't. I think that the affects of smoking cause you to get wrinkles, get fatter and makes your face mature negatively. Aging also increases due to stress. These factors are what i have studied upon. I know this is right so don't question me.
I think the author is right on his opinion. Age can be eliminated in some aspects. If we eliminate age then old people will take all our jobs and the population would not be balanced. This would cause the Earth to overflow with people. This would also mess up the aging process of dating people of all ages. Ewn that's nasty, lets not be trifalent. We love Biology and Mrs. Hancock as a teacher.

HAHA This is funny but true. I think if people take care of their bodies and eat healthy then aging will not be a be as problem like for people who smoke and drink. So if we take care of our bodies like God wants us to Very Happy then aging will be slowed down by A lot.
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Post  Suga-Mama on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:48 pm

iluvowls wrote:I believe that age strictly has to do with how well you take care of your body. Being overweight and out of shape will make our bodies ware down and deteriorate. I also think genetics also play a part in our lifespans but when it comes down to it it's all about keeping our bodies healthy.
I think it would be a horrible idea to eliminate aging. If we did this, the world would be terribly overpopulated and full of old people. Even tho our bodies may not show signs of aging, it is impossible to stop. Not only would this be a burden on other people but just being old is no good. Everyone needs to die at some point. Eliminating signs of aging is simply pointless
First of all, what is wrong with old people? Second, can you not see the possibilities that not aging could bring? If we didn't have to age, we would be able to make thousand year voyages through space. We may even be able to solve all the mysteries of the universe. Does that not sound cool to you. alien
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Post  Suga-Mama on Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:01 pm

tw33tybirdn3rd wrote:
1. After reading Liz Ward's article, which aging theory do you subscribe to - is aging determined by your genes or is it determined by your lifestyle? Explain your stance.
I think that aging is determined by your life style, everything that happens to your body is based on the way you treat your body.



2. The Grandparents of Tomorrow takes a extreme approach to aging. What are your opinions about the author's ideas? What societal problems might the elimination of aging cause? If it were possible to stop the aging process, should we? Explain your stance.

I mean I really don’t have anything to say really but that it was something that you are likely to here. Aging cant be eliminated because the world wouldn’t be in balance. If it was possible to stop the aging process I don’t think we should because people live there life and don’t need all the time in the world.
I understand what you mean, but if the world did discover a cure for aging, i don't think they would not use it. I don't think people like to know that they will die one day. People like the sense of knowing what lies ahead, and if they knew that they never had to die, if may inspire so much more motivation to live life and to make bigger contributions to the world. I also think that the world would not be in such a rush. The world would slow down and may become a more forgiving place. This could give the world a second chance. I love you
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Post  tweetywizard on Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:46 pm

I believe that aging is a little bit of both but mostly based upon the lifestyle people live. If you really think about it most older people have problems at their age because of things that they have done in the past.

I think the authors ideas on aging are logical but are unnecessary. We do not need to intervere with fate and mother natures plans. If we intervere then we will mess up the cycle of life. Even if it is possible to stop the aging of people we shouldn't because like I stated earlier, it would mess up the life cycle process and that could mess up the future for the world!! Sad

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Post  tweetywizard on Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:52 pm

gamerdude94 wrote: Aging is a natural cycle of earth. If nobody died then we would all eventually die from starvation and food scarcity plus cramped conditions. It would also destroy the economy, look how hard it is to get a job now, it wont be any easier if everyones great-great-grandparents are working too.


I agree with you on that because we have to worry about the future and not just the now.

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Post  tweetywizard on Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:03 pm

iluvowls wrote: Even tho our bodies may not show signs of aging, it is impossible to stop. Not only would this be a burden on other people but just being old is no good. Everyone needs to die at some point. Eliminating signs of aging is simply pointless

Your right, everyone dies at some point and if people want to look good and not have signs of aging then they just need to do their bodies right and be healthy.

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Post  penguin94 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:55 pm

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penguin94 wrote:
If you do not try to live longer than your body is able to function correctly, and you die of natural causes, then no it is not condisered suicide because you did not bring about your own death. You simply "went the way of the world". I do not consider trying to prolong your "stay" on the Earth as bad, but if you do that and things happen that continue to make it necessary for you to continue attempting to lengthen your life, then its probably your time to go, you have fulfilled your purpose in life. Also, I believe that God gave us such trials and tribulations as cancer to teach us patience, love, kindness, and compassion. these trials were also created and given so that we may be humble and become closer to God through prayer and faith and when we do pray and have faith, we will recieve blessings and the trials will end when we die and we will finally be at peace. it is just like riding a bike. you dont get to enjoy the sensation of riding a bike until you try, fall down and hurt yourself a few times, but still try and eventually, usually with help from a parent, you finally are able to do it.

You never die "of natural causes" because dying is something going wrong in your body. Plenty of living things live far longer than humans, you have to remember that this isn't doing away with death. If a man who can live forever gets stabbed, he still dies and the age limit would definitely still be there. How do you know your purpose in life isn't accomplished until 300 years from now? When we die, we die. So excuse me if i brush off the fairy tales and false morals.
fairy tales and false morals...an interesting and closed-minded way to put it. i can see where you are coming from but I simply believe that it is wrong and even disgusting that you would want to prolong your life and in doing so, may hinder another. by the time technology to hold back aging is created, the Earth may be in the most critical conditions in resources and overpopulation. if it is created and there is no problem, then fine, but I sure do not want to be dating a man who is 40+ years my senior. I want to discover life with someone, not avoid everything because I marry an older guy who has already experienced that. where's the fun and adventure in life then?
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You are definatly Mr.Clasby. Your post interest me though.

Post  timmy buck buck on Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:49 pm

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Yofeetstink wrote:1. Aging is determined by your lifestyle not your genes because in the article they said even if your family has a long line of heart attacks then you can avoid it if you exercise a lot and eat healthy, which overrules the genes factor.

2. I think the author should not try to mess with the aging process since it is a natural process but they are being open minded. The elimination of aging can make it so there is a lot less grief because people won't die and of old age of anything which means your grandma and grandpa will always be there but i don't think that will be possible because God didn't make it so we would live forever so it will never be that way no matter how much science we have. We shouldn't stop the aging process because it is the natural way of life.

Addressing #1: YOU CAN avoid it, that seems to be a inconclusive argument. Who knows? maybe it merely puts off the heart attack or maybe the you die before you could genetically have a heart attack. Also, not all genetic diseases can be put off by "lifestyle" like cancer or sickle cell. People who drink, smoke, and abuse drugs can and have outlive people with diet and exercise filled lives BECAUSE of genetics.

Addressing #2: So we should stop using modern medicine too? It stops people from dying, so shouldn't the unnatural practice stop?

If you said yes to either of these questions, have fun dying to a stubbed toe that got infected.

Sweet, God gets brought in. Riddle me this, if suicide is a sin (ending your life earlier than you would "naturally die") then wouldn't not trying to live as long as possible be suicide? Especially if you have the means to do so? Either way if a all-powerful supernatural being wants you dead, he probably isn't going to give you a cancer.

To be completely honest though, anytime you need to bring religion into a non religious debacle, it's not because your god/s doesn't like it. It's probably more because you personally frown upon it, but don't have reason to.
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